By: the_savage_mind
Fair enough, Krrrlson. I have no idea if the letter meant an honest opportunity. In and of itself I have my doubts. What I do know is that the policy of not having any dialog with Iran is getting us...
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It sounded like you were agreeing that the letter was "an unprecedented opportunity." If you weren't, my bad.
View ArticleBy: the_savage_mind
Ok, now I'm saying stop being a dumb asshole. I never said I knew what he's saying. Find me the post where I did. What I'm saying is that what he's saying doesn't necessarily mean much, and you don't...
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This is amazing. Apparently you know exactly when the Iranian president means what he says, and when he doesn't. I don't understand what you're doing here when Washington needs you so badly.
View ArticleBy: the_savage_mind
I need to stop cursing. Sorry Krrlson. nstead I should have said, "Quit being so deliberately obtuse." I'll try to rein it in.
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Besides, I thought he had no power... why should anyone care about his letter? Quit being a moron and an ass-hole. The points of the letter were certainly drafted by the people in charge. Which in no...
View ArticleBy: Krrrlson
Besides, I thought he had no power... why should anyone care about his letter?
View ArticleBy: Krrrlson
I was actually referring to Ahmadinejad's letter to Bush which represented an unprecedented opportunity that the Bush administration duly ignored. A sampling of Holocaust denial and skirting of the...
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And I'm certainly not trying to deft the theocratic ruling body of Iran. I hate theocracies on principle, along with any kind of authoritarian or totalitarian systems. I also think Ahmadenejad is an...
View ArticleBy: nixerman
"We'll do what we want, so you can accept it or suck it" is an ultimatum, not an accord. Krrlson, I was actually referring to Ahmadinejad's letter to Bush which represented an unprecedented opportunity...
View ArticleBy: the_savage_mind
I'm not mistaking any support for Bush. I'm saying that Bush is a monkey, and what he says doesn't really matter. Not remotely as much as what's decided behind closed doors by the 'adults' in the...
View ArticleBy: scheptech
Unlinke monkey-boy Bush? Are you for real? I've offered my equally unflattering opinions on Bush II, inheritor of the mantle and immediate descendent of Bush I, here before. And I find your comparison...
View ArticleBy: Krrrlson
Krrrlson, they don't need Israel to stay in power. It's too bad you know nothing about the current state of Iranian politics. Those statements together are just precious. Let's imagine, for a moment,...
View ArticleBy: bardic
Somebody who doesn't understand the difference between Arabs and Persians really needs to do some reading before they participate in a thread like this. That said, the polarization on display here and...
View ArticleBy: the_savage_mind
they've hired a stand-up comic to represent them in sort of a self-deprecating ironic performance art project Unlinke monkey-boy Bush? Are you for real?
View ArticleBy: scheptech
They're so confident in their power that Iran has actually reached out to America to establish an accord. And to show their good will, to get everyone to relax, they've hired a stand-up comic to...
View ArticleBy: nixerman
Krrrlson, they don't need Israel to stay in power. It's too bad you know nothing about the current state of Iranian politics. The mullahs are sitting pretty and any hope of democratic revolution is...
View ArticleBy: the_savage_mind
Sort of like Iran and Syria want Israel? Yeah, most likely. But to suggest Mahmoud should be treated as an irrelevancy is just naive. You still haven't explained why he isn't irrelevant. Considering...
View ArticleBy: Krrrlson
We have fucked Iran over so badly it's incredible. ... 'They' (the folks Cheney and Rumsfeld represent) want the eternal enemy so they can keep the current power/wealth structure. Sort of like Iran and...
View ArticleBy: PinkStainlessTail
I listen to NPR radio in the mornings while I get ready for work, because it's the only radio station that doesn't insult my intelligence. You get an NPR station that edits out Steve Inskeep and Renee...
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holy shit... no time to write more in response cause I'm running out, UU, but I will pick up that David Price book. And yeah... I also mean civil rights, socialist and anarchist activist movements in...
View ArticleBy: scheptech
Nothing happens in a vacuum. True and thanks for the history. Meanwhile however we have a problem in the here and now which the current overlords of the place seem determined to make much worse....
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Don't get me started on my theory behind WWI and how it was all about destroying the rise of the labor movement in the West. I for personally, for one would love to read your theory on this...
View ArticleBy: the_savage_mind
Here's a little primer of sorts for people who really don't know much about Iran. You're better off going to Wikipedia, but in a nutshell... Iranians are Persians, not Arabs (although there are Arabs...
View ArticleBy: the_savage_mind
Right, can you explain what the order-givers are doing then? You're suggesting they have an opposite view to the one offered by the figurehead? They're letting (or even encouraging) him to make those...
View ArticleBy: Devils Slide
Yes scheptech, Iran is going to annihilate Israel with nukes it doesn't have, even though it would mean its own complete destruction, because their figurehead (read"joke") of a president waves his fist...
View ArticleBy: nixerman
Yes, really, scheptech, please take a moment to review the structure of the Iranian government. It's really quite strange that people want to "deal with" Iran but don't seem to know the first thing...
View ArticleBy: delmoi
Yeah people act like Ahmedinijad is some dictator when actually he was elected. He's like the "Class president" of Iran. He gets elected, but actually the board of regents is still in control. Anyway,...
View ArticleBy: scheptech
He doesn't have the power to do anything on his own. He's given orders. Right, can you explain what the order-givers are doing then? You're suggesting they have an opposite view to the one offered by...
View ArticleBy: the_savage_mind
scheptech, you do realize that ahmedinejad has no more individual power than the previous guy who tried to liberalize things, right? You ever heard of a little thing called an Ayatollah? How about a...
View ArticleBy: Krrrlson
Look, give Ahmadidi a break. You can't just be declared 12th imam without murdering a bunch of people.
View ArticleBy: scheptech
Move IsraelWipe Israel of the mapHolocaust a Myth, but the other European countries sought to complete it.Israel Headed for Annihilation You seriously believe this man is not going to cause problems...
View ArticleBy: nixerman
Now in this case we have Iran, a country with a really tough PR problem. Their leadership wants to destroy another country, i.e. make war and shed blood on a scale not seen in a long while,...
View ArticleBy: bardic
No, they call themselves Persians because they're Persians, as opposed to Arabs. And ya know, why not write critically valid articles about Iran? There are plenty of knowledgeable people out there, but...
View ArticleBy: scheptech
Ok I get it, we're talking about PR, mindspace, public attitudes, and all as enablers of war. Now in this case we have Iran, a country with a really tough PR problem. Their leadership wants to destroy...
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Blood and destruction shall be so in use And dreadful objects so familiar That mothers shall but smile when they behold Their infants quarter'd with the hands of war; All pity choked with custom of...
View ArticleBy: nixerman
Do you view Taheri as some sort of agent controlled by a ruling cabal? Is he particularly influential? Does anyone care? Well, again, after 2003, when we start seeing 'editorials' from indigineous...
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minister-for war.Sarah Posner, in the American Prospect, has a frightening expose of the influential Texas pastor John Hagee, who is pushing for a joint U.S.-Israel war on Iran. "Dr." Hagee, as he...
View ArticleBy: nixerman
It is all well and good to note that the author of the quote might be (again) a fraud, but Iran wants a nuke, and Iran wan ts to run/rule the fertile crescent. Postroad, please give the propaganda a...
View ArticleBy: tkchrist
Broken clocks. Taheri may be a liar but I think he is pretty close to right about Iran.
View ArticleBy: bardic
Taheri is one among a select few "experts" on Iran who are obvious liars. This is the second time he's been "caught," so to speak. And mefites had an interesting discussion about it the first time, IMO.
View ArticleBy: blahblahblah
Bardic, I didn't say your reasons were nefarious, I just commented that the post didn't make sense to me. Do you view Taheri as some sort of agent controlled by a ruling cabal? Is he particularly...
View ArticleBy: bardic
And while I agree that the current leadership of Iran is quite bad, it's bullshit to say that Iranians are somehow biologically predisposed to religious violence. Dare I say, it's rather racist of you....
View ArticleBy: bardic
Since we tookdown Saddam, there no longer remains a coutervailing force against Iran You don't say? As for my nefarious reasoning behind this post, I'll let latter tags speak for themselves....
View ArticleBy: Postroad
It is all well and good to note that the author of the quote might be (again) a fraud, but Iran wants a nuke, and Iran wan ts to run/rule the fertile crescent. Since we tookdown Saddam, there no longer...
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